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Bluetooth Transmission ideas

Posted by Taylor Bernard on April 25, 2013

these guys are trying to do the opposite of us, trying to contain their BT singal.
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Re: How shield bluetooth radio to stay in one room
Yes, covering the walls would be nice, but not feasible. If I understand you correctly, a secondary ideal way would be to completely isolate the transmitter except for an "antenna" which could be chosen and adjusted at will until the range is optimal. Luckily, my experimentation with improvised low cost household metals seems promising!

Putting my $7 class II bluetooth "hands free" in a sauce pan with its cover on, reduces its range to about 1½ meter. Which is a way longer range than I had expected, but I suppose sauce pans are made of stainless steel and therefor not very conductive.

Covering the bluetooth hands free completely with one layer of aluminium foil, drops the range to about 50 cm (half a meter)! I think it is very promising that it did not block radio contact completely. The foil I tried with is marketed as "extra strong". Maybe there are thinner foils around. Or else maybe making some small holes in it could increase the range to room level. Two layers kill all contact at any distance.

I've also tried with steel wool (wire wool). When folded into an ordinary "sheet" of it, no contact was possible. Its flashing LED was still visable through it. But by stripping off layers, contact was achieved inside the same room but not in the neighboring room. This seems to be ad hoc scalable to any range from case to case. But dirty and a bit time consuming with trial and error. It seems to be very important that the cover is homogeneous. One open hole (say 1 cm diameter) in any direction relative to the receiver, easily makes the signal come through even to the next room. Somehow, bluetooth signals seem to manage to both penetrate through, AND reflect from, concrete walls!

I will have a look in shops what kinds of malleable metal grids I can find to experiment with. Maybe one could wind a metal wire around it?"

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 attached is a pic of the redBearLabs BTLE shield i'm using. i circled the antenna on it.  other is a possible idea with putting the two antennas thru the enclosure and flush with the top and seal it with a grommet type mating connector

Comments

Taylor Bernard on April 25, 2013:

ok, guys on the RedBearLabs went with a pcb tract antenna
 the guy that just made the micro sized RFDuino did a SMT (surface mount technology) antenna, its the little rectangle @ 2 o'clock on the board.

this XBee transmitter uses a SMT whip antenna. maybe we can use 2 whip antennae (one for EMF, one for BT and get more range and can lower the gain voltage to save battery life.

Justin Bernard on April 25, 2013:

but we don't really have a range concern do we (unless we encase it in Ti or something insulating like that)?  i was thinking we'd be more than fine for people to get signal, we may have more issue of having long range signal picking up multiple bikes at a track for instance...

Justin Bernard on April 27, 2013:

very different than what we are doing, but kind of interesting http://www.belkin.com/us/wemo